Q: Gloria, I'm glad you're here today for the interview. Previously couple of months, you've created number of very unique fashion photographs, do you know me what distinguishes you against other Ny fashion photographers conceptually or aesthetically?

A: Whenever we talk about the concept and aesthetic, these are really big questions. Basically, I believe the largest distinction between mine and others is the fact that I be more conscious of the beauty of the models themselves rather than the clothing. I think clothing displayed by different people can display different tonality and produce different effects. Just how to make use of the good thing about ordinary those who are far away from mainstream beauty in order to show the clothes are things i pay more attention to. Eventually, it is the people wearing the clothes, not the other way round.

Q: We discovered that in your artworks, most of your models don't meet the general standard of beauty. You will find maybe some elderly people and children. They may have various figures. Can you explain the reason why you would rather work with them?

A: When i mentioned before, I prefer to focus on “people” themselves. There really isn't anybody who is more beautiful or uglier than other people. It is simply the way we were educated to see ordinary individuals a different way from the mainstream “beauty”. And so i would like to observe how unique those models are when I abandon those “beauty rules”. I don't think beauty has a simple standard. It should be diverse. For instance, within my photos, the smiling faces of these slightly fat children are extremely beautiful. Once they placed on clothes created for adults, you might believe that they reveal a unique feeling in their outfit. The displacement from the clothing and individuals is intriguing. I believe shooting with ordinary people helps me look around the complicated relationship between fashion and people, that has always been my thoughts since I started shopping at 14.

Q: In your artworks, you typically ignore the models' figures. Or let's say that you blend the style style using their natural body very well so the audience don't realize they are “not beautiful”, how did you achieve that?

A: I'm not that sort of human who only concentrates on the standard standard of beauty. You will find a lot of beauties being chosen for photography. Personally, I favor recording bodies that naturally change over time, for example elders. They may have wrinkles as well as their body shapes are not slim anymore, but they have natural changes over the years. I feel like there's a charm of your time surrounding them. I think the word “beauty” is continually changing, specially in the fashion field. Within my own definition, my kind of beauty is really much about being genuine. I like those who are genuine about their looks, who accept how old they are and body shape genuinely. And I think most likely the reason the fashion and models blend together well is always that I had been also being very genuine with individuals participated in my projects , so they return me using their genuineness.

Q: Are you able to explain a little more about the process of selecting a model?

A: It requires a comparatively long time that i can find the best fit models in my projects, however i think it deserves that. I am forever in a “casting director” mode, whenever I am walking in the pub, taking subway- I would walk as much as strangers in the pub and request their numbers and merely save a lot of contacts, waiting for the right project to come up. Since the pandemic, it became extremely hard to cast people in the pub because most people are wearing masks and no-one really wants to talk to a random strange woman like me. So I went online to look for amatuer actors/actresses who're readily available for shootings. After i meet them, I like to talk with them to ensure that I possibly could learn about their experience, their understanding of the idea and their feelings concerning the clothing. Most of them have completely different understandings towards fashion from mine. For instance, to be able to finish the aim for King Kong magazine, I had conversation with 60 older models, including those who are not professional models. After which I finalized several models that I was very satisfied with. Fortunately, the preparation process finally gave us an excellent result. While they don't post like professional models, their very own body language and personality bring out something very genuine and unique.

Q: There are lots of models from minorities inside your artworks. Can you tell us the reason? And just how is your work related to the discussion of racial representation in the fashion industry right now?

A: Yes it's. As a Chinese woman, I realize how hard it had been becoming an adult in China as a chubby girl. To be able to escape the “thin and white” beauty standard that is very popular among Chinese women, I love to dig deeper on other culture to determine what the alternatives are. Ever since then, I can't take my eyes off minorities. They simply have very interesting and different concept for beauty, while the western media is constantly loaded with exactly the same thing: tall, slim, glamorous. I believe it's my duty to bring diversity to the beauty industry through my lens, since i know it would encourage other girls with various cultural backgrounds to look at themselves inside a more understanding way rather than pursuing the one “true” beauty. I mean, girls would do anything to appear a lot more like the “standard beauty”, they would continue unhealthy diet, expensive surgery-

The western beauty standard is taking over many local culture, and is changing the way people from different culture take a look at themselves. There has been a loss of diversity in the fashion industry, and I try my favorite to provide something culturally irreplaceable.

Q: What's your opinion about the differences between the aesthetic of beauty in the U.S. and also the standard in China?

A: At the first glance, there is a massive difference (laughs). Like I said, the aesthetic of beauty from China, or perhaps Asia, are the ones white and thinner girls; while within the U.S., people prefer those wheatish skin and plump girls. But when we look closer, they are essentially not much not the same as one another, because both of them are promoting a really limited knowledge of beauty, and individuals are encouraged to spend endless amount of cash onto it. Ironically, Chinese woman would collect a complete drawer of skin whitening products while the Americans prefer to visit tanning salons. Although I began my photography career first combating china standard of beauty, now I am actually combating any kind of beauty representation that won't open up for more interpretation.

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